ON
BEING A THINKER I am never surprised by the
ignorant who believe the pabulum that they are taught and never learn to think
for themselves. It amazes that most
physicists today know that Einstein believed that black holes (called Schwarzschild's
singularities
back then) really existed while the truth was that Einstein went so far as to
write a paper about why they could not exist.
It is therefore a breath of fresh air to find a kindred soul who actually
“thinks.” The following online
discussion exemplifies how two people by clarifying their definitions, using
logic, and really thinking can actually advance their common understanding and
further scientific thought. An online discussion between Drs. Jacob Ghitis (JG) & James Siepmann (JS) JS:
It is always a pleasure to converse with someone of your caliber. You and
I agree on about 90+% of the discussion, which obviously means that you are
quite intelligent. JG:
Does this mean that I need to agree with you on (100-90+)%, to be
completely intelligent? JS:
Of
course: if one of us is 100% right, that makes the other one quite intelligent. JG:
No argument here, Jim: case closed. JS:
Jacob, I too agree that the more math available to validate a theory, the
better. JG:
Jim, to validate a theory, it should be proved. Once that is done, the results
become part of a given science. Such science now becomes more exact. That's why
I said in my previous letter (not posted) that the more math, the more precise
the science, which means, more of a science and less of an art. JS:
Jacob, a theory can only be validated, never proven.
Once it has been proven or is as close to proven as we can conceive, it
becomes fact. JG:
You have now opened a vast range of ideas and definitions to be clarified. I
shall start by positing --actually, stating-- that it is essential to use
correct definitions. I'd say that first come the hypotheses, and once they are
proved, that is, shown to be correct, a theory can be built upon them.
Hypotheses derive from analogical thinking, because they do not appear
just out of the blue. Galileo invented a telescope, saw the four Jupiter's big
moons, and by analogy, he postulated that Copernicus was right. After this
postulate became accepted as a fact, the theory of a solar system was advanced.
Nowadays, it is widely accepted that solar systems are common. The theory has
now become an accepted fact: the LAW of Solar Systems, which is under study, to
round it up. I
do not know how Newton initially approached the now accepted Laws of Motion, but
I feel quite sure that first he postulated analogically, and then confirmed the
postulates, so that a theory was born. I'd say that the theory was validated by
others, resulting in the Laws of Motion: Newtonian Mechanics. Quantum Mechanics
is in the process of being shaped. It probably started with the analogy of a
legged organism moving by steps, as contrasted with serpentine progress.
Besides, the "all or nothing" principle of neuromuscular response was
known at the time. I postulate that photons are composed of two units, as shown
by having been separated experimentally. They are thus a 'pair,' with very
"unusual" characteristics. Quantum
Theory will become Quantum Law. JS:
Interestingly, one could make an argument that even what we call facts,
are not absolutes. For instance, one could say that the statement "a sphere
is round" is a fact, yet an observer in a different reference frame may see
it as an ellipse. Very little of
what we call fact is 100%. JG:
'Absolute' refers to a reality that exists, even though H. sapiens may
not detect it. It is related to the Platonic "Ideas' or 'Forms,' as
contrasted to the Aristotelian 'Material.' Scientists strive to unearth the
absolutes, which can be described only in terms of concretions. Aristotle cannot
be separated from Plato, and that is what makes their names immortal.
Other philosophers delved on this basic subject. Facts are material
expressions of absolutes. But... a sphere is round because we call round
something that we see as spherical, and the other way around. Thus, it is not a
question of being a fact, but just a question of a universally accepted
definition. A fact must be 100%
true, which means, it must be a concretization of an absolute. JS:
Now we are getting closer to a meeting of the minds as we are refining
our definitions. You are therefore saying that reality is beyond any accurate
human definition and all we can do is to try and define “facts,” the best
that we can, using our limited senses, devices, and frames of reference.
In fact, in my Laws of Observation, I specifically state that the true
reality of an “object” is that from the same frame of reference as the
object itself. In doing so, it
allows us to give a nonrelative definition to reality.
I
do have to somewhat disagree with your premise “the more math, the more
precise the science.” I
believe and can reasonable argue that mathematics is another language that we
have created and use to describe both the physically real universe as well as
the “virtual” universe (the universe of ideas or concepts which have no
basis in reality). JG:
Math is a discipline. It is not a natural or an artificial science,
because it doesn't exist as a natural phenomenon or as a man-made body of
thought ad technological applications. Once
a math equation is proved to be correct, i.e., to represent a natural
phenomenon, it becomes an axiom, a truth on which a given science is built upon.
JS:
Jacob, math is based on postulates which we assume to be accepted
facts (see above). From this logic
alone it can be seen that even math is not absolute.
Math is not a science but rather a language, allowing us to deal with
"objects" that may not exist in the physical universe. JG:
Jim, you are talking of postulates in the sense of axioms, of principles
that are universally accepted as being true. I eschew this subject by just
telling that the only math that deeply interests me is the one that formulates
or purports to formulate absolutes. Maxwell's perfected equations are Laws of
Physics; they picture absolutes, which are present in every concretization
called electrical phenomenon. Einstein got his Nobel on account of the laws of
the photoelectric effect. His Theories of Relativity are being worked upon to
modify them until eventually they become Law. His proposed equation of energy
and mass has not been validated. Making energy dependent exclusively on
arithmetical mass progression is intuitively wrong. What has light velocity to
do with the pressure energy stored in the gluons? JS:
Physicists from H.A. Lorentz to H. Poincare to many current
theorists, believe that theories need not be understandable as long as the math
works (i.e., 7+ dimensions, or that matter is nothing but math). JG:
There is hardly a theory based on math that I can understand, because I know
very little math. Yet being a philosopher of science by dint of knowledge and
intuitive thinking, I can follow a simple equation and understand its
implications. The math used to present a theory will be said to work only after
the theory is validated. Please
explain the "7+ dimensions." Are they part of String Theory? I do not
know that more than 3 dimensions have been demonstrated to exist. To me, time is
a dimension of change, i.e., of energy, not of objects. As
for "matter is nothing but math," I would find more apposite to say,
"matter is essentially math." Personally, I have stated: "Math is
the core of physics, which is the core of matter." JS:
Jacob, as to the multiple dimensions beyond the typical 3+1 (lwh+t), I
myself do not understand the math behind these other dimensions, which my
mathematical friends talk about. All I know is that there are a bunch of dimensions in math of
which "7" was surpassed some time ago. JG:
Jim, what a relief to read that you also find those
"dimensions" queer. Although those working on them humbly accept
almost the same ignorance.… Now, I read your paper "Laws of Space and
Observation," and of course was unable to understand your advanced
mathematics. But I was relieved
when reading that you also cannot agree with time as being concrete, but an
expression of change. Therefore,
why do you use the lwh+t formula? JS:
I do not think that time is relative but I do believe that it exists.
A simple logical argument that I use is that if all of the universe began
at the same instant and assuming that it will ultimately contract and all the
universe will end at the same instant then time must be consistent throughout
the entire universe. The only
definition of time that I can give is that it is the artificial measurement of
the universe’s lifecycle. Man
therefore has made artificial units of “time” to describe the advancement in
the universe’s life. Therefore
philosophically, I agree with you that time as a specific entity does not exist
but it is a useful tool in describing reality.
Just like “radius” does not really exist, it is descriptive of
“length,” likewise I have tried to show that time is nothing more than a way
of describing light. For instance,
1 second = 3E8m/s length of light. JG:
Let this now be an opportunity to challenge your postulate that
space is fixed. Then you say that it is there just waiting for mass to fill it
up to its boundaries? I have
postulated that space is created by mass and that therefore its boundaries are
an expression of the amount of mass in the universe. The boundaries will be set
by the mass's capacity to keep moving and therefore expanding the universe.
There is a LIMIT, because everything that is under the influence of the Laws of
Physics has limits. JS:
You and I actually agree that space is not fixed and that it is related
to mass. We probably just have come
to it from a different perspective and used different terms to get there. From
a previous conversation about math: JS:
Math is a language in that it allows us to describe and compare ideas,
just as words do. For instance, I can say "4" or I can say "2
sets of two," of which the latter is a more descriptive form of the actual
idea/reality. JG:
Math is a symbolic language that simplifies word language; "4"
symbolizes: one plus one plus one plus one. JS:
Jacob, I was trying to communicate, "2 sets of 2" yet if I were
to have said "4" you would have misinterpreted what I was trying to
communicate. "4" would have been more vague than the object(s)
that I was trying to describe. JG:
Clear: case closed.
JS:
Jacob, math is nothing but relations and descriptions of ideas and
realities. When Einstein derived E=mc2, he did not create anything
but he was rather more accurately describing an aspect of physical reality. I
could express the same idea by saying "energy is confined within matter and
can be quantified by taking the mass of the object times the speed of light (in
a vacuum) squared. In fact, I probably was more descriptive in the prose than
the math, as the speed of light was detailed as being that which is measured in
a vacuum. JG:
Jim, when I refer to math, I mean the symbolic equations that express any one of
the Laws of Physics. Einstein's
equation took time to be developed by himself, as representing in a symbolic
manner one such law. It has not been validated yet. Its impact resulted from its
address to the convertibility of matter into energy.
I have posited that "gamma bursts" result from a complete
conversion of all the nuclear components of a given dead star when it is
ingested and compressed to the ultimate critical point inside a monstrous black
hole. How
was Einstein's "c2" derived and then validated?
His equation is not yet a law of physics, that is, not an axiom.
I have posted on this conundrum, and now I believe that the equation
should be E=mP, where P is the pressure required to create the nucleus of an
atom. Thus, the more nucleons, the
more P, and most probably not in an arithmetic progression. Einstein's formula indicates that uranium contains only about
238 times the energy of hydrogen, which is an intuitive absurd.
The pressure required to compress 238 nucleons must be much more than 238
times the one required to make one proton.
It
is not difficult to understand the logic of my equation, and therefore of the
expression "gluon plasma," since gluons result when the pressure
applied reaches the critical limit to make a given nucleon. JS:
Jacob, I did not intend to lead you to the conclusion that I believe in
the special relativity. In fact, I agree with you that special relativity it is
far from being validated despite academia treating it as dogma.
This is quite an extensive discussion that I will defer to Pari Spolter
in her book, "The Gravitational Force of the Sun" to which she devotes
chapters 2&3 to this topic. In
fact, my article on the Laws of Space and Observation in fact are more validated
than special relativity and it explains gravity too. JG:
Jim, it is a relief to read that you do not reject off-hand my equation.
Does Pari Spolter comment on the implausibility of Einstein's? I suppose she deals with pressure, but does she take P in
account as I do, to formulate the concise 'E=' equation? JS:
Pari does a good job at pointing out why special and general
relativity are not valid as well as giving examples of scientists altering their
data and conclusions to fit the dogma of relativity.
Any intelligent review of relativity would show that it is wrong or at
least needs major revisions, but unfortunately, too many in science today just
believe what they are told without investigating it for themselves. As
with all theories, they are attempts to describe that which exists. I do not
find anything wrong with the attempts to better understand/describe reality.
Quite the contrary, it is our striving to understand the universe that is one of
man's most exciting and challenging endeavors.
You like me, seem to be one who enjoys helping others in learning how to
think rather than just filling heads with facts/figures. A mind that can think
is worth more than a million minds that parrot. Unfortunately, the “status quo
parrots” greatly outnumber us thinkers. JG:
I would say that no number of non-creative minds can create at all.
We belong to a select group of thinkers; we can help only creative minds develop
their capacities. That they are few is just a fact, which is not unfortunate,
but a reality that spurs us to fill in the vacuum, for as long as it gives us
joy. JS:
Alas, Jacob, though my experience seems to agree with your conclusion, I
still hope that we can stimulate dormant creative minds.
It would be sad if the human race is losing the art/ability of thought.
JG:
Amen, Jim: case closed. Definitions AddendumDr Ghitis’ Definitions:Science:
The results of the activities for advancing the knowledge of
natural
phenomena, and the creative application of such knowledge. The
sciences:
Corpora of scientific knowledge on specific areas of human interest. Natural
sciences:
Sciences dealing with the study of natural phenomena. Artificial
sciences:
Sciences invented, constituting specific corpora of knowledge. Applied
sciences:
Sciences --Natural or Artificial-- dealing with the application of scientific
knowledge. Idea:
In science, a thought expressed with or without the specific intention of being
considered as a proposition. Positing:
(From: to posit.) Presenting a proposition. Proposition:
(Verb: to propose.) A thought submitted for consideration. Postulate:
(Verb: to postulate.) In science, a
complex proposition. Statement:
(Verb: to state.) A declaration based on real or alleged information. (A word
not applicable in science.) Hypothesis:
In
science, a postulate based on analogical thinking.
(In philosophy, the parallel is called thesis. In theology, belief.) Theory:
In science, a set of hypotheses, some of them validated, intending to explain
interrelated complex natural phenomena. Law:
In science, a theory, once the component hypotheses are considered to have been
totally validated. Scientific
Method: The application of
observation by means of inductive reasoning, followed by classification and
verification by means of deductive reasoning. The use of instruments increases
the scope. The reproducibility of positive observations under experimental
conditions --by different scientists in different laboratories-- allows the
results to be considered as facts. Fact:
In science, a finding consistently verified by the scientific method. Axiom:
In science, a fact or set of facts serving as a
stepping-stone to
build upon it any of the
sciences. Empirical:
Based on inductive and then deductive observations. This is the stepping-stone
for scientific research. Scientific:
Based on experimental results, which are referred to as scientific facts. Dr.
Siepmann’s Definitions: describe: to understand the nature of something in the universe and define it in a manner that allows it to be studied and communicated. fact: a theory that has been validated close to certainty. hypothesis: a tentative or working assumption which scientific study has yet to validate. For instance, I can make the hypothesis that fire is hot. I put my hand into a fire and find it is hot. Now it is a theory. If it is validated by many to the point of certainty then it is a fact. Technically, there is nothing that is 100% certain. For instance, I could be existing in a dream world where fire is hot while in my real world fire is cold. Though this is highly unlikely, it still could be so. But when something seems to be confirmed by every reasonable method, then we can call it a fact. law: a characteristic of the universes that seems fundamental to the workings of he universe. part: any component of the universe. Science: the field of study which tries to describe and understand the nature of the universe in whole or part. The field of study or discipline that we call Science is spelled with a capital "S" as it is a proper noun in this use while science with a small "s" is the application of this discipline. theory: a hypothesis or group of hypotheses which have been validated but not to the point of near certainty. universe: that which exists and in its entirety. This includes all that exists whether it can be perceived or not. whole: something that permeates the universe at large. e.g. gravity. In addition to the above definitions of hypothesis, theory, fact, and law, below is an example of their appropriate use. Let's say that I form the hypothesis that fire is hot. I then put my hand
into a fire and find it is hot. Now it is a theory as it has been verified. If
it is verified by many to the point of certainty then it becomes a fact. Technically, there is nothing that is 100% certain. For instance, I could
be existing in a dream world where fire is hot while in my real world fire is
cold. Though this is highly unlikely, it still could be so. But when something
seems to be confirmed by every reasonable method, then we can call it a fact. A Law on the other hand is not a fact, but rather it is something that seems fundamental to the workings of the universe.
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